[Julian Shaw (Man Myth or Monkey?)]

I disagree Kate. If you are a veggie and want to bring an end to the meat 
trade you do that by making it unprofitable. The best way of doing this is to 
stop eating meat and cut out all meat by-products (leather, dairy, etc) from 
what you consume. What is the cow killed for exactly? Why do people assume 
it's the meat first? Many cows are killed just to keep milk production flowing 
and leather just keeps the whole system more profitable.

Julian

>===== Original Message From kate at dnki.net =====
>Hey all,
>
>Actually, it makes perfect sense to use the woodchips to protest if you
>understand that woodchips are generally a byproduct, not a primary product
>of forestry - at least with most old growth timber.  Until other markets
>were found, mills simply burned the stuff for heat.  I remember giant wigwam
>burners going day and night at the sawmill where my uncle worked, until they
>were shut down for emissions issues.  When my mom was little, pacific
>northwest residents bought truckloads of chips from the sawmills or had it
>delivered for use in residential furnaces much the way coal was used on the
>eastern seaboard.
>
>Plenty of vegetarians don't eat cows, but wear leather shoes because the use
>of leather does not drive the unsustainable aspects of the cattle industry
>like the use of beef does.  Traditionally, the relationship between
>woodchips and lumbering is similar.
>
>Then again, way too many trees are chipped for paper these days, at least on
>this side of the ocean.  Most trees chipped for paper on the eastern US are
>what is called "pulp wood", or knotty, half-rotted, or otherwise unusable
>for lumber.  That does not justify clearcutting, however, nor the attendant
>erosion and habitat destruction that happens regardless of whether the trees
>cut down had a lot of knots or are diseased or stunted.  I don't know what
>the practices are in Tasmania, but I suspect they aren't chipping this stuff
>but shipping it to the same asian lumber mills they rip out Pacific
>Northwest old growth for - there are no mills left in the states that can
>take the monster trees.
>
>Kate Adams
>
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>Kate Parker Adams
>University of Massachusetts - Lowell
>Department of Work Environment
>Kitson 202A
>Kate_Adams at uml.edu
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: powderworks-bounces at cs-lists.cs.colorado.edu
>[mailto:powderworks-bounces at cs-lists.cs.colorado.edu]On Behalf Of David
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 2:37 AM
>To: Powderworks at cs-lists.cs.colorado.edu
>Subject: RE: [Powderworks] Protesters chip away at Garrett's forests
>stance
>
>
>Some protesters just don't get it.
>
>They buy a tonne of woodchips to try and reduce woodchip production?
>
>Next they'll be chaining themselves to buried combi vans to protest
>against landfill.
>
>
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