[Powderworks] androporosphere

Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:04:59 -0400

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Did I just hear somebody other than me say "symbolic????????"

Knowing better than to open my big yap again, but sticking to my guns
re: Antarctica, I remain, yours truly,
Cistern Beth

-----Original Message-----
From: powderworks-admin@cs.colorado.edu
[mailto:powderworks-admin@cs.colorado.edu] On Behalf Of Kate Parker
Adams
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:22 PM
To: Bruce Robertson
Cc: powderworks@cs.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: [Powderworks] androporosphere

VERILY the official website sayeth unto the Powderworking cistern and
brethren with regard to Albums 7:7 

Girls are not smiling 
The stars have gone out 
The man with the landslide
Got his head in the ground 
Like an unopened letter 
Left under the door 
He says I am the answer you're looking for 

Whoah - oh 
Don't wanna see you back here again 

Above we dream in Andropovosphere 
Who maintains the drunken machinery 
Below we dream of a time 
When those men come from West Point 

http://www.midnightoil.com/music/album-diesel.html#whoa

It all comes together if you consider:

The man with the landslide = Ronald Reagan and his friends referred to
his 1984 victory as a landslide because they won the elections in nearly
all 50 states.  The reality was that Reagan was elected by a small
plurality of half of the eligible voters, but very evenly so across the
country.  Slightly more than 50% of 50% thus meant nearly 100% of the
electors.

When those men come from West Point = West Point is the US Military
Academy at West Point, New York. West Point is the source of much of the
officer corps and all the elite officers in the US Army.  Probably
symbolic of Reagan's saber-rattling "gunboat diplomacy" based on the
projection of US military might around the world.  Sound familiar?

Within this context, "Andropovosphere" holds up the Soviet component of
the sort of on-the-brink-of-nuclear-war and escalating arms race madness
which characterized the early and mid-1980s segment of the cold war era.

This is the background material - the *real* meaning of whole or of the
rest is up to you *scary* folks to figure out, with electronic brickbats
if necessary.  Anyone know why it is the seventh song of the seventh
album?  Must be symbolic of something! ;-)

I love this place!

Best,
Kate

At 02:32 PM 9/24/03 -0400, Bruce Robertson wrote:

Greetings Scholarly Workers!

I guess you do learn something new every day. In a classic case of
mis-heard lyrics, I thought this term was 'Anthropodosphere' and read it
as a reference to the earth, as a sphere inhabited and dominated by
creatures roughly resembling human beings. I'm intrigued by the
reference to Andropov, and fear now I have probably misunderstood this
song from the get-go. Time to give it another listen.

bruce in calgary

Kate Parker Adams <kate@dnki.net> wrote: 
It's "Andropovosphere" and it refers to a Yuri Andropov, very briefly
the 
leader of the Soviet Union in the 1980s prior to the Glasnost of
Gorbachev 
and the collapse of communist rule. As I recall, Andropov was very 
reclusive and very possibly murdered, given the length of his tenure.
At 12:31 PM 9/24/03 -1000, you wrote:
>i am loathe to ask, because i know somewhere in the powdies deep dark
past 
>this subject was covered, but does anyone know to what the 
>"androporosphere" refers? 
> 
>cheers, 
>joffa 
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Did I just hear somebody other than =
me say
&#8220;symbolic????????&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Knowing better than to open my big =
yap
again, but sticking to my guns re: </span></font><st1:place><font =
size=3D2
 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
 color:navy'>Antarctica</span></font></st1:place><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>, I
remain, yours truly,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Cistern =
Beth<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
powderworks-admin@cs.colorado.edu =
[mailto:powderworks-admin@cs.colorado.edu] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Kate Parker Adams<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, =
September 24, 2003
4:22 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Bruce Robertson<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> =
powderworks@cs.colorado.edu<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: =
[Powderworks]
androporosphere</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

VERILY the official website sayeth unto the
Powderworking cistern and brethren with regard to Albums 7:7 
 
Girls are not smiling 
The stars have gone out 
The man with the landslide 
Got his head in the ground 
Like an unopened letter 
Left under the door 
He says I am the answer you're looking for 
 
Whoah - oh 
Don't wanna see you back here again 
 
Above we dream in Andropovosphere
 
Who maintains the drunken machinery 
Below we dream of a time 
When those men come from West Point 
 
<a href=3D"http://www.midnightoil.com/music/album-diesel.html#whoa"
eudora=3Dautourl>http://www.midnightoil.com/music/album-diesel.html#whoa<=
/a> 
 
It all comes together if you consider: 
 
The man with the landslide =
=3D
Ronald Reagan and his friends referred to his 1984 victory as a landslide because they won the =
elections
in nearly all 50 states.&nbsp; The reality was that Reagan was elected =
by a
small plurality of half of the eligible voters, but very evenly so =
across the
country.&nbsp; Slightly more than 50% of 50% thus meant nearly 100% of =
the
electors. 
 
When those men come from West Point =
=3D West
Point is the US Military Academy at West Point, New York. West Point is =
the
source of much of the officer corps and all the elite officers in the US
Army.&nbsp; Probably symbolic of Reagan's saber-rattling &quot;gunboat =
diplomacy&quot;
based on the projection of US military might around the world.&nbsp; =
Sound
familiar? 
 
Within this context, &quot;Andropovosphere&quot; holds up the Soviet =
component
of the sort of on-the-brink-of-nuclear-war and escalating arms race =
madness
which characterized the early and mid-1980s segment of the cold war =
era. 
 
This is the background material - the *real* meaning of whole or of the =
rest is
up to you *scary* folks to figure out, with electronic brickbats if
necessary.&nbsp; Anyone know why it is the seventh song of the seventh
album?&nbsp; Must be symbolic of something! ;-) 
 
I love this place! 
 
Best, 
Kate 
 
 
At 02:32 PM 9/24/03 -0400, Bruce Robertson wrote: 
<![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]> 
<![endif]><o:p></o:p>

Greetings Scholarly Workers! 
&nbsp; 
I guess you do learn something new every day. In a classic case of =
mis-heard
lyrics, I thought this term was 'Anthropodosphere' and read it as a =
reference
to the earth, as a sphere inhabited and dominated by creatures roughly
resembling human beings. I'm intrigued by the reference to Andropov, and =
fear
now I have probably misunderstood this song from the get-go. Time to =
give it
another listen. 
&nbsp; 
bruce in calgary 
 
Kate Parker =
Adams
&lt;kate@dnki.net&gt; wrote: =
<o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>It's &quot;Andropovosphere&quot; and it =
refers to a
Yuri Andropov, very briefly the <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>leader of the Soviet Union in the 1980s prior =
to the
Glasnost of Gorbachev <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

and the collapse of communist rule. As I =
recall,
Andropov was very <o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>reclusive and very possibly murdered, given =
the length
of his tenure.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>At 12:31 PM 9/24/03 -1000, you =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&gt;i am loathe to ask, because i know =
somewhere in
the powdies deep dark past <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&gt;this subject was covered, but does anyone =
know to
what the <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&gt;&quot;androporosphere&quot; refers? =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&gt;cheers, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&gt;joffa <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Kate Parker Adams =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>kate@dnki.net <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&quot;She's gonna dream up the world she =
wants to live
in, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>She's gonna dream out loud&quot; - U2 =
(Zooropa) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>----------------------------------------------=
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>go Out Of Mind ... <a =
href=3D"http://www.dnki.net/blog"
eudora=3Dautourl>http://www.dnki.net/blog</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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