Midnight Oil

NMOC-Re: [Powderworks] rules and US --NMOC

Kate Parker Adams kate@dnki.net
Sat, 12 Apr 2003 15:51:35 -0400


I was gonna say ... I traded with Virgil nearly a decade ago and I thought 
he's from Ohio or thereabouts.

I think we all must realize as well that you cannot over-interpret every 
nuance of the writings of those powderworkers amongst us who are not native 
English speakers.  There are many people on this list who are very well 
educated and write very well and have immense vocabularies upon which they 
rely, but might not have so many talents and the verbal database at their 
command were they to opine in a foreign tongue.

I didn't interpret Felipe's "anti-American" comments so strongly as others 
for that very reason. In context of his message I suspected that what he 
meant was not what we usually may infer when we encounter the phrase.  Thus 
"Anti-American band" did not conjure flag burning vehemence but willingness 
to critique of US foreign policy.


At 02:27 PM 4/12/03 -0500, The Oilman wrote:
>Just pondering this here, not sure if I'm thinking of someone else but it is
>possible I have Virgil confused with another p'worker and he may not be
>Austalian, but it doesn't effect my beliefs either way.
>
>Sorry Virgil, its been a while since we've spoke and don't recall exactly
>where your at. Probably due to your P'works sabbatical you took :-)
>
>Oilman
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Peter Scott Poitras" <pete.poitras@the-spa.com>
>To: <powderworks@cs.colorado.edu>
>Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 2:03 PM
>Subject: Re: NMOC-Re: [Powderworks] rules and US --NMOC
>
>
> > <thunderous applause>  Well said.
> >
> > Pete
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: The Oilman <TheOilman@new.rr.com>
> > To: Felipe Castillo <escrutador@language.proz.com>;
> > <powderworks@cs.colorado.edu>; Virgil Thomas Alexander Morant
> > <v-morant@onu.edu>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 2:37 PM
> > Subject: NMOC-Re: [Powderworks] rules and US --NMOC
> >
> >
> > > First off, please put your foolish politcal commentary as NMOC, as I am
> > > extremely sick of hearing everyone's take on the matter and maybe I am
> > alone
> > > but doubt it very much. We get overloaded with information the way it
>is,
> > > and I can find every possible analysts take on the war online, I don't
> > need
> > > my mailbox full of crap like this. Either mark them NMOC or take up your
> > > political debates person to person not acorss the globe in Powderworkers
> > > mailboxes.
> > >
> > > Felipe has a history of stirring the pot, I love how he tries to throw
> > this
> > > back in Virgil T. Morant's face. Virgil, a well articulated, long time
> > > powderworker AND most importantly for Felipe's silly mail: AUSTRALIAN.
>No
> > he
> > > didn't have the father, son, and Ronald Reagan. No he didn't put Saddam
>in
> > > power, or any of your other silly suggestions about what Virgil somehow
> > > contributed to. Remember half of the Americans didn't vote for Bush, so
> > how
> > > is it now suddenly their fault that he was elected? Ridiculous.
> > >
> > > I want to read about Midnight Oil, that's why I've been on Powderworks
>for
> > > the last 9 years. NMOC means delete to me, and your e-mail DEFINITELY
> > falls
> > > into that category.
> > >
> > > Ignorant, yes that is what your e-mails always sound like. You forget
>that
> > > Americans don't always support the governments decisions or have the
> > > officials they wanted in office, so no we didn't all put someone in
>power
> > or
> > > cause someone to get elected, your anti-American sentiments probably
>never
> > > will be accepted kindly.
> > >
> > > My remarks are titled NMOC as I don't want others to waste their time
> > > reading crap like I just had to waste time to write but I am hoping it
> > saves
> > > me time in the future getting rid of all this mail I have no intention
>of
> > > reading. My apologies to anyone we read this and are sick of the endless
> > > politics as well.
> > >
> > > Todd
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Felipe Castillo" <escrutador@language.proz.com>
> > > To: <powderworks@cs.colorado.edu>; "Virgil Thomas Alexander Morant"
> > > <v-morant@onu.edu>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 10:16 AM
> > > Subject: [Powderworks] rules and US
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Virgil.
> > > >
> > > > First point, when I say anti-americanism I'm talking about the
>political
> > > > statement against US intentions to rule the world for their own
>benefit.
> > > >
> > > > Second point, I guess PG talked about the values of your country (are
> > > > the same values for your government?) and your forefathers, he was
> > > > thinking also in Australia. Both countries was made over the death of
> > > > thousand aboriginal people, but in some time in history you need to
>find
> > > > your roots, where are them? just in the forefathers who started to
>boukd
> > > > after destruction.
> > > >
> > > > Third point, pre-emptive war is an agression against humanity. You
>built
> > > > Saddams' empire in Irak, have you forgot it? Also Bin Laden have been
>a
> > > > Family with many business related to US interests. So this pre-empite
> > > > invasions and occupations (Afganisthan and Iraq) are just a revenge
> > > > between gangsters, saddly, innocent people have died in the middle of
> > > > this terrorist actions, including the victims of the Twin Towers. This
> > > > is going to be legal (as your president's election) but it is
> > legitimate?
> > > >
> > > > Finally, when I see Bush, I see a drunk, a sick man, a pig who
>┐thinks?
> > > > that the end will justify the means. Also I can see George Orwell's
>"Big
> > > > Brother". Anyway, you have had the father, the son and Ronald Reagan,
> > > > are you proud of it?
> > > >
> > > > escrutador
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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