[Powderworks] No Photo Policy
Erin Coker
ercoke@hotmail.com
Thu, 02 May 2002 09:27:28 -0400
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<P><BR>I can only speak from expereince after receiving a photo pass for the vermont show recently. I had to sign a release saying that the photos were being taken and only used for the publication in which i work for. Also, that I could not sell them without the managements permission and lastly had to follow their rules. Rules such as shooting the first three songs with NO flash. This is pretty common practice with most artists i have photographed over the past 5 years although its becoming a rarity that i have to sign a release. I think about 30 percent of the time i sign a release of some sort. Somebody was right when they noted that we could debate this until we are blue in the face. All i can say is show a little respect by not using a flash and limit the number of pictures you take. The majority of the people who get in trouble or get noticed are the flash users...but i have seen non flash get in trouble too.<BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>>From: Kate Adams <KATE@DNKI.NET>
<DIV></DIV>>To: powderworks@cs.colorado.edu
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: [Powderworks] No Photo Policy
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 23:16:20 -0400
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<DIV></DIV>>One thing that bothers me about this whole little online scuffle
<DIV></DIV>>here: why
<DIV></DIV>>don't the flashpowderworkers who want to take pictures unmolested
<DIV></DIV>>recruit
<DIV></DIV>>one of the somebodies who hang on this list and have close ties with
<DIV></DIV>>the
<DIV></DIV>>band to find out exactly what the issues are with photography? And
<DIV></DIV>>what,
<DIV></DIV>>exactly is the policy? And can someone at the venues make an effort
<DIV></DIV>>to
<DIV></DIV>>tell it to the mob?
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Until we know why they don't want photos during concerts (flash
<DIV></DIV>>units?
<DIV></DIV>>artistic property control? legal rights of their handlers?) we can
<DIV></DIV>>debate
<DIV></DIV>>and speculate until we are blue in the face and the local bouncer
<DIV></DIV>>goon
<DIV></DIV>>skwads will continue to snatch cameras and flashbulb boneheads will
<DIV></DIV>>continue to blind the performers and no one will know what the rules
<DIV></DIV>>are or
<DIV></DIV>>why.
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<DIV></DIV>>I'm not likely to take a camera into a concert, so I don't really
<DIV></DIV>>care one
<DIV></DIV>>way or another. Burning bandwidth, however, produces little in this
<DIV></DIV>>case. Those who really care about taking pictures should consider
<DIV></DIV>>taking
<DIV></DIV>>it up a level and finding out what goes on.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>At 09:44 PM 5/1/02 -0400, you wrote:
<DIV></DIV>>>Here is my most humble opinion about this.
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<DIV></DIV>>>I believe that when you decide to perform in front of people that
<DIV></DIV>>>paid
<DIV></DIV>>>money to see you, then you must accept the fact that people may
<DIV></DIV>>>want
<DIV></DIV>>>something to remember this occassion whether it be a photo or a
<DIV></DIV>>>recording
<DIV></DIV>>>of the show. If you have something against it then maybe you
<DIV></DIV>>>should not
<DIV></DIV>>>perform in front of people.
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>Now, I understand the possibility of these being sold in a
<DIV></DIV>>>secondary
<DIV></DIV>>>market may be a concern of some people but even there I believe
<DIV></DIV>>>that the
<DIV></DIV>>>entire performance is given to all those in attendance. I cannot
<DIV></DIV>>>see any
<DIV></DIV>>>way that the selling of a photo (especially a non professional
<DIV></DIV>>>quality
<DIV></DIV>>>one) in the secondary market would in any way harm the band
<DIV></DIV>>>financially
<DIV></DIV>>>since they probably never intended to sell that exact photo in any
<DIV></DIV>>>case.
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>In their recent Elevation Tour, U2 allowed non-professional cameras
<DIV></DIV>>>into
<DIV></DIV>>>the arena. There were flashes going off all over the arena during
<DIV></DIV>>>all the
<DIV></DIV>>>shows and you know what most people get from the pictures they
<DIV></DIV>>>took, Nice
<DIV></DIV>>>Memories. That is it!
<DIV></DIV>>>However, if one guy manages to sell one for a few bucks, it is
<DIV></DIV>>>immaterial.
<DIV></DIV>>>Nobody will sell millions of them that is for sure.
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>I know I may get flamed for this but I feel that this group may be
<DIV></DIV>>>open
<DIV></DIV>>>minded enough for my capitalist tendencies to simply get a well
<DIV></DIV>>>worded
<DIV></DIV>>>rebuttal instead of a flame.
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>Phil
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<DIV></DIV>>*********************************************************************************
<DIV></DIV>>Kate Adams
<DIV></DIV>>Graduate Student
<DIV></DIV>>Department of Work Environment
<DIV></DIV>>UMass Lowell
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<DIV></DIV>>all
<DIV></DIV>>those nasty responsibilities.
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