[Powderworks] No Photo Policy
Kate Adams
kate@dnki.net
Wed, 01 May 2002 23:16:20 -0400
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One thing that bothers me about this whole little online scuffle here: why
don't the flashpowderworkers who want to take pictures unmolested recruit
one of the somebodies who hang on this list and have close ties with the
band to find out exactly what the issues are with photography? And what,
exactly is the policy? And can someone at the venues make an effort to
tell it to the mob?
Until we know why they don't want photos during concerts (flash units?
artistic property control? legal rights of their handlers?) we can debate
and speculate until we are blue in the face and the local bouncer goon
skwads will continue to snatch cameras and flashbulb boneheads will
continue to blind the performers and no one will know what the rules are or
why.
I'm not likely to take a camera into a concert, so I don't really care one
way or another. Burning bandwidth, however, produces little in this
case. Those who really care about taking pictures should consider taking
it up a level and finding out what goes on.
At 09:44 PM 5/1/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Here is my most humble opinion about this.
>
>I believe that when you decide to perform in front of people that paid
>money to see you, then you must accept the fact that people may want
>something to remember this occassion whether it be a photo or a recording
>of the show. If you have something against it then maybe you should not
>perform in front of people.
>
>Now, I understand the possibility of these being sold in a secondary
>market may be a concern of some people but even there I believe that the
>entire performance is given to all those in attendance. I cannot see any
>way that the selling of a photo (especially a non professional quality
>one) in the secondary market would in any way harm the band financially
>since they probably never intended to sell that exact photo in any case.
>
>In their recent Elevation Tour, U2 allowed non-professional cameras into
>the arena. There were flashes going off all over the arena during all the
>shows and you know what most people get from the pictures they took, Nice
>Memories. That is it!
>However, if one guy manages to sell one for a few bucks, it is immaterial.
>Nobody will sell millions of them that is for sure.
>
>I know I may get flamed for this but I feel that this group may be open
>minded enough for my capitalist tendencies to simply get a well worded
>rebuttal instead of a flame.
>
>Phil
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Kate Adams
Graduate Student
Department of Work Environment
UMass Lowell
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Global Free Trade: All the economic benefits of colonialism, without all
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One thing that bothers me about this whole little online scuffle
here: why don't the flashpowderworkers who want to take pictures
unmolested recruit one of the somebodies who hang on this list and have
close ties with the band to find out exactly what the issues are with
photography? And what, exactly is the policy? And can someone at
the venues make an effort to tell it to the mob? <br>
<br>
Until we know why they don't want photos during concerts (flash units?
artistic property control? legal rights of their handlers?) we can debate
and speculate until we are blue in the face and the local bouncer goon
skwads will continue to snatch cameras and flashbulb boneheads will
continue to blind the performers and no one will know what the rules are
or why.<br>
<br>
I'm not likely to take a camera into a concert, so I don't really care
one way or another. Burning bandwidth, however, produces little in
this case. Those who really care about taking pictures should
consider taking it up a level and finding out what goes on.<br>
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At 09:44 PM 5/1/02 -0400, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2>Here is
my most humble opinion about this. <br>
<br>
I believe that when you decide to perform in front of people that paid
money to see you, then you must accept the fact that people may want
something to remember this occassion whether it be a photo or a recording
of the show. If you have something against it then maybe you should
not perform in front of people. <br>
<br>
Now, I understand the possibility of these being sold in a secondary
market may be a concern of some people but even there I believe that the
entire performance is given to all those in attendance. I cannot
see any way that the selling of a photo (especially a non professional
quality one) in the secondary market would in any way harm the band
financially since they probably never intended to sell that exact photo
in any case. <br>
<br>
In their recent Elevation Tour, U2 allowed non-professional cameras into
the arena. There were flashes going off all over the arena during all the
shows and you know what most people get from the pictures they took, Nice
Memories. That is it! <br>
However, if one guy manages to sell one for a few bucks, it is
immaterial. Nobody will sell millions of them that is for sure. <br>
<br>
I know I may get flamed for this but I feel that this group may be open
minded enough for my capitalist tendencies to simply get a well worded
rebuttal instead of a flame. <br>
<br>
Phil </font><font face="arial"> </blockquote>
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Kate Adams<br>
Graduate Student<br>
Department of Work Environment<br>
UMass Lowell<br>
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Global Free Trade: All the economic benefits of colonialism, without
all<br>
those nasty responsibilities.<br>
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