[Powderworks] Oil and UB40, SRV, M Burn, etc.
Laura Wolfe
Laura Wolfe" <casalobo@lightspeed.net
Sat, 9 Mar 2002 15:41:51 -0800
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Responses and comments re: other messages:
I'm not sure what UB40's audience thought about Oil on the 85 tour? =
They got a good response and always did an encore, and the horn section =
of UB40 came out for the end of Power and the Passion (that got a big =
response, of course). But I'm sure many of them found the Oils too =
aggressive, too loud, impossible to dance to (except the verses of P&P), =
and too overtly political (although UB40 started out as a political =
reggae band -- UB40 is the form number of the unemployment application =
in the UK). I think it was a badly conceived match and was probably a =
waste of Oil's time for that six weeks. Their show at Irvine on 8/9/85 =
was 45 minutes of absolute intensity: Best of Both Worlds, Read About =
It, U.S. Forces, Kosciusko, Short Memory, Only the Strong, Don't Wanna =
Be the One, Power and the Passion, and Stand in Line. Put THAT in your =
pipe and smoke it!
Quick correction re: SRV opening for Men at Work in Seattle in 82. He =
was killed in a helicopter crash in August 1990, quite a while later.
Re: Malcolm Burn's production of "Breathe." In a word, it sucks. When =
Rob told me they were on their way to New Orleans to record with Burn, I =
asked who he was. When he told me that he was a protege of Daniel =
Lanois (whom I like and respect), I told him that sounded like a really =
bad match to me. I cautioned him to watch the drum sounds, something =
that Lanois (and his engineer, Burn) are lousy with. I told him the =
drums would come out sounding like boxes or tin cans, and he said he'd =
keep an eye (ear) out for that problem. And I was right (for once). =
But I was certain there would be a clash of musical sensibilities and =
that it would hurt the album. Just think what Warne Livesey or Nick =
Launay could have done with the same material, recorded in Sydney or =
London. Everything that Lanois or Burn produce sounds the same. Kind =
of lo-fi, basically. It works great on Lanois' solo albums and for =
artists like Dylan and Emmylou Harris, but NOT for a guitar band like =
the Oils. Like most Oil fans, I often wonder why they don't ask ME =
these things and then do what I tell them. ;-) I would have =
recommended Gavin McKillop (Toad the Wet Sprocket, The Chills, =
mid-period still-rockin' Goo Goo Dolls) or Jerry Harrison (ex-Talking =
Heads, who produced the first few, fantastic sounding albums by Live, as =
well as Crash Test Dummies and one other completely different act that =
escapes me at the moment) somewhere along the line. Steve Lillywhite =
might have been a good choice, too (U2, Simple Minds, more recently Dave =
Matthews Band's first few CDs).
OK, climbing down off my soapbox now.
Bill Wolfe
The thought manifests as the word;
the word manifests as the deed;
the deed develops into the habit;
and habit hardens into character.
So watch the thought and its ways with care,=20
and let it spring from love
born out of concern for all things.
-- The Buddha
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm not sure what UB40's audience =
thought about Oil=20
on the 85 tour? They got a good response and always did an encore, =
and the=20
horn section of UB40 came out for the end of Power and the Passion (that =
got a=20
big response, of course). But I'm sure many of them found the Oils =
too=20
aggressive, too loud, impossible to dance to (except the verses of =
P&P), and=20
too overtly political (although UB40 started out as a political reggae =
band --=20
UB40 is the form number of the unemployment application in the =
UK). I=20
think it was a badly conceived match and was probably a waste of Oil's =
time for=20
that six weeks. Their show at Irvine on 8/9/85 was 45 minutes of =
absolute=20
intensity: Best of Both Worlds, Read About It, U.S. Forces, Kosciusko, =
Short=20
Memory, Only the Strong, Don't Wanna Be the One, Power and the Passion, =
and=20
Stand in Line. Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Quick correction re: SRV opening for =
Men at Work in=20
Seattle in 82. He was killed in a helicopter crash in August =
1990,=20
quite a while later.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Re: Malcolm Burn's production of =
"Breathe." =20
In a word, it sucks. When Rob told me they were on their way to =
New=20
Orleans to record with Burn, I asked who he was. When he told me =
that he=20
was a protege of Daniel Lanois (whom I like and respect), I told him =
that=20
sounded like a really bad match to me. I cautioned him to watch =
the drum=20
sounds, something that Lanois (and his engineer, Burn) are lousy =
with. I=20
told him the drums would come out sounding like boxes or tin cans, and =
he said=20
he'd keep an eye (ear) out for that problem. And I was right (for=20
once). But I was certain there would be a clash of musical =
sensibilities=20
and that it would hurt the album. Just think what Warne Livesey or =
Nick=20
Launay could have done with the same material, recorded in Sydney or=20
London. Everything that Lanois or Burn produce sounds the =
same. Kind=20
of lo-fi, basically. It works great on Lanois' solo albums and for =
artists=20
like Dylan and Emmylou Harris, but NOT for a guitar band like the =
Oils. =20
Like most Oil fans, I often wonder why they don't ask ME these things =
and then=20
do what I tell them. ;-) I would have recommended =
Gavin=20
McKillop (Toad the Wet Sprocket, The Chills, mid-period still-rockin' =
Goo Goo=20
Dolls) or Jerry Harrison (ex-Talking Heads, who produced the first few,=20
fantastic sounding albums by Live, as well as Crash Test Dummies and one =
other=20
completely different act that escapes me at the moment) somewhere along =
the=20
line. Steve Lillywhite might have been a good choice, too (U2, =
Simple=20
Minds, more recently Dave Matthews Band's first few CDs).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OK, climbing down off my soapbox =
now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bill Wolfe</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The thought manifests as the =
word;<BR>the word=20
manifests as the deed;<BR>the deed develops into the habit;<BR>and habit =
hardens=20
into character.<BR>So watch the thought and its ways with care, <BR>and =
let it=20
spring from love<BR>born out of concern for all things.<BR>-- The=20
Buddha<BR></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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