Midnight Oil

[Powderworks] Capricornia promos on ebay

Gabriel Luci gluci@yahoo.com
Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:22:59 -0800 (PST)


How about giving them away?

--- Michael Devall <mdevall1@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>      Just a reminder that in the United States
> promotional items such as
> promo CDs cannot be traded or sold legally.  The
> same thing goes for bootleg
> items.  It has to do with this thing called
> copyright infringement.  I
> believe such actions are considered felony offenses
> under federal law, and
> penalties can be severe if you are caught which may
> include prison time and
> of course a criminal record.  THIS IS NO JOKE. 
> Always think first.
>      As for music promotions, some BMG labels suck
> at promoting artists.
> CMC International Records, which is a lesser known
> label located here in the
> Raleigh-Durham area, is a prime example.  They have
> such classic rock
> artists as Lynyrd Skynyrd, Styx, Tommy Shaw, Molly
> Hatchet, Ratt, Blue
> Oyster Cult, Nazareth and many other artists of such
> stature.  The only new
> albums of these artists that I've known promoted by
> CMC International were
> "Twenty" by Lynyrd Skynyrd, "Heaven Forbid" by Blue
> Oyster Cult and "Seven
> Deadly Zens" by Tommy Shaw.  Such albums like "The
> Silent Reign Of Heroes"
> by Molly Hatchet and "Brave New World" by Styx which
> I thought were pretty
> good were never really promoted.  RCA Records and
> Arista Records, which are
> the largest record labels through BMG, usually do
> pretty good in music
> promotions.  Our other record label here in the
> Raleigh-Durham area, Mammoth
> Records located in Carrboro, is also a very good
> promoter.  They have our
> popular local band The Squirrel Nut Zippers, plus
> Seven Mary Three and Los
> Lobos.  Mammoth Records is through WEA though, not
> BMG.  Usually the larger
> labels are the better promoters, but of course that
> is not always the case.
> Promotions depend not just on the label, but also
> the producer, the
> management, and the artists themselves.  But the
> main thing that most
> everything revolves around including music is always
> going to be this
> >> $$$.  Isn't politics wonderful?  TTFN...  Sorry
> Peter, I meant to send
> this message to the list, not just one person.
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Scott Poitras"
> <pete.poitras@the-spa.com>
> > To: <powderworks@cs.colorado.edu>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 8:07 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Powderworks] Capricornia promos on
> ebay
> >
> >
> > > Sigh.
> > >
> > > Funny how Liquid 8 is killing auctions.  They
> certainly don't seem to be
> > > taking the time to promote.  A bunch of us
> filled out their form to be
> > > volunteers to help hype the album/tour, and here
> the album is supposed
> to
> > be
> > > out in a week and we have heard NOTHING.  Also,
> shows are being
> announced
> > > and on sale, and no contact either.
> > >
> > > And they freak and cancel auctions when the
> promos were already taken
> out
> > of
> > > circulation?!?  I understand that's not
> necessarily the point of a
> promo,
> > > but then again, if they were being used at all,
> they wouldn't be on eBay
> > in
> > > the first place.  I know, spoken as the guy who
> was the high bidder on
> the
> > > Golden Age single...  :-(  And as we see from
> Jon's message, cancelling
> > the
> > > auction has led to a giveaway, which isn't
> helping the promotion either.
> > >
> > > Anyways, I'll go back to my cave.
> > > Pete
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: powderworks-admin@cs.colorado.edu
> > > [mailto:powderworks-admin@cs.colorado.edu]On
> Behalf Of Helstad, Jonathan
> > > R APX
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 6:06 PM
> > > To: 'powderworks@cs.colorado.edu'
> > > Subject: [Powderworks] Capricornia promos on
> ebay
> > >
> > >
> > > Fellow Powderworkers:
> > > You might find the message below interesting.
> Liquid 8 has started
> killing
> > > auctions of Capricornia promos on ebay. Anyways,
> I'll be getting the
> promo
> > > tomorrow from this guy free-of-charge because he
> wasn't able to sell it
> on
> > > ebay! Cheers! Jon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:53 PM
> > > Subject: WARNING: eBay AUCTION REMOVED - VeRO
> PROGRAM
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We regret to inform you that your auction:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  Midnight Oil "Capricornia" promo advance CD
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > has been ended at the request of Liquid 8
> Records, a member
> > > > of eBay's Verified Rights Owner (VeRO)
> Program, because
> > > > they filed a sworn statement that it offers a
> product or contains
> > > > material which violates their copyright,
> trademark or other
> > > > rights.  In the interest of protecting all
> eBay users, we end
> > > > such auctions to avoid any association with
> potentially
> > > > infringing or unlawful items.
> > > >
> > > > We understand that sometimes mistakes can be
> made.  If
> > > > you feel your auction was ended in error,
> contact the VeRO
> > > > Program Member directly by emailing them at
> kdooley@liquid8records.com.
> > > >
> > > > Of course, eBay is available to answer
> questions, but since only
> > > > the rights owner understands their products
> and policies, we
> > > > encourage you to contact them first.  If we
> agree a mistake has
> > > > been made or the VeRO Program Member notifies
> us, we will
> > > > allow you to relist the item.
> > > >
> > > > We also understand that even if your item is
> infringing, you may
> > > > have been unaware of that fact, and may have
> listed the item with
> > > >  the best of intentions.  Unfortunately, even
> if this is so, you still
> > > > could face potential liability, so ending the
> auction is still
> > necessary.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   All Bidders have been notified and any
> associated
> > > > fees have been credited to your account.
> > > >
> > > > **Keep in mind that listing of prohibited,
> questionable or infringing
> > > > items, or the re-listing of ended items
> without the approval of eBay,
> > > > can result in your suspension from eBay.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your cooperation.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Lynn (whyended@ebay.com)
> 
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