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[Powderworks] NMOC Frenchies are not fascist !!!

Mathieu BREVIERE mbreviere@cudl-lille.fr
Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:46:33 +0200


Don't forget that, like English don't do like everyone, French are never
satisfy. Think of soccer's World Cup in 1998, French criticize their team
and finally they win...
These votes are more protestations against insecurity or is phobia than
racism our antisemitism...
Think that better scores of Le Pen are in small city where there are no
"strangers" !!!

Mathieu


----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Woodward" <woody@hairydonut.plus.com>
To: "Fabrice Pabois" <Fabrice.Pabois@ncl.ac.uk>;
<powderworks@cs.colorado.edu>
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Powderworks] NMOC Frenchies are not fascist !!!


> If 72% of people voted and there are about 50 million people in France who
> can vote and Le Pen got about 18% of the vote:
>
> My dodgy mathematics work that out to be 6.5 million people who voted for
Le
> Pen.
>
> That seems like quite a few to me.  In England we consider we have a major
> problem with the National Front and they only got 0.2% of the vote and
only
> 40% of people voted, this makes about 38,000 people.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fabrice Pabois" <Fabrice.Pabois@ncl.ac.uk>
> To: <powderworks@cs.colorado.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 9:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [Powderworks] NMOC Frenchies are not fascist !!!
>
>
> > Mathieu,
> >
> > Thanks for your explanations. I just wanted to add 2 more figures:
> > - 28 % of the people didn't vote.
> > - 49 % of votes for Lepen are thought to be votes of contestation from
> > people fed up with the lack of concern from politicians.
> >
> > Then again they are just figures and Lepen is on for the second round...
> >
> > Fabrice
> >
> > > Mathieu BREVIERE wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > This sunday, an uncredible politic evenement was realised : the leader
> > > of french extreme right LEPEN has been qualified for the second hand
> > > of presidential election.
> > > I just want to explain the context.
> > >
> > > In France, for this election, each "politic team" puts his candidat to
> > > the people's choice.
> > > This time, we have got 16 candidats !!! :
> > > - the actual president Chirac on the liberal right
> > > - the actual prime minister Jospin for socialism
> > > - two greenies
> > > - christian democrate
> > > and three extreme left, two extreme right, two free electrons of big
> > > party and others
> > >
> > > There are two years, the extreme right was composed of a unique party
> > > with Lepen, but a dissident has created his party. The result was the
> > > disparition of extreme right during two years.
> > >
> > > Other thing : We were in a cohabitation's area.
> > > What is it, a new sexual position !?
> > >
> > > In fact, we had got a right's president and a left's prime minister.
> > > The particularity of our republic is the fact that both of them have
> > > got some equivalent power. That is not the case in germany and United
> > > Kingdom where the state is represented by a president or a king with
> > > small powers, and the government a large power with chancellor or
> > > prime minister.
> > > The illustrtaion is the fact that we speak of "fifteen's Europe" with
> > > fifteen countries but sixteen chairs for two representant of our
> > > country : prime minister and president and fourteen others countries.
> > >
> > > During five years, people couldn't seen the differences between these
> > > two future candidats and they have voted for small parties like
> > > revolutionnary communist, dissident left's party, etc. for frustration
> > > and sanction for the two main parties. And many people haven't voted
> > > this famous sunday.
> > >
> > > The result :
> > > chirac : 19.88 %
> > > lepen : 16.86 %
> > > jospin : 16.18 %
> > > and for the left's partries :
> > > dissident : 5%, revolutionnary's Communist : 5% and 4%
> > > greenies : 6%
> > >
> > > Second hand the 5th of may with a great score for chirac, I hope !!!
> > >
> > > Welcome in my country, redneck wonderland which has forgotten years of

> > >                       war and fascism in Europe.
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