Midnight Oil

Subject: Re: [powderworks] Re: Not Sure About the Strategy Here
From: Bawolski
Date: 1/03/2017, 3:24 am
To: powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au

Actually Ticketmaster doesn't own StubHub (eBay does) but since they do allow second hand selling of tickets on their own site
that just give us two big resellers to deal with.    


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hurd chris@dvinfo.net [powderworks] <powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au>
To: powderworks <powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au>; Tim Frommer <tfrommer@gmail.com>
Cc: Robert Daniels <daniels1975@gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, Feb 28, 2017 9:15 am
Subject: Re: [powderworks] Re: Not Sure About the Strategy Here

 
Take what you guys are saying and follow to its logical conclusion: the shows aren't sold out at all. 

Instead, some portion of the total number of tickets has simply shifted from TicketMaster over to third-party heavily inflated sellers.

Perhaps not even "third party" as is the case with the TicketMaster-owned StubHub.

In other words, the shows aren't actually sold out; it's just that some significant percentage tickets went straight to the re-sale market, where they may or may not find buyers.

I don't think adding shows or switching current ones to larger venues is going to accomplish anything, as those efforts do not address the problem.

Seems to me that if more shows are added, it'll just fuel the scalping fire. What they need to do is to remove or revoke the tickets offered by third-party services.

Just my two pence.

CH

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Tim Frommer tfrommer@gmail.com [powderworks] <powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au> wrote:
 
>>Having said that, the demand and scalping at Keswick was not as bad as other venues (maybe
>>because they were sold through the Keswick and was one of the first shows to go on sale,
>>maybe before the scalpers had their plans in place)

Given how things played out last week in the US, I think this is the only reason I was able to get tickets for Portland and Vancouver. These were the first North American shows on sale (or among the very first). The scalpers weren't initially tipped off to the potential demand. (Or, if I'm being cynical, TicketMaster wasn't aware and then later "sold" tickets to their own re-seller arms). I bought my Portland ticket either in the afternoon of the day of sale or the next day. By the time Seattle pre-sale and general sale happened, I was shut out within seconds of the on-sale times.

-Tim F

4.2. Re: Not Sure About the Strategy Here
    Posted by: "Robert Daniels" daniels1975@gmail.com daniels1975
    Date: Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:31 am ((EST))

I think if the switch to larger venues is to take place, it can only happen
at venues that are all GA.  How do they replicate the seats I have at the
Keswick theater with ones at a larger venue.  Having said that, the demand
and scalping at Keswick was not as bad as other venues (maybe because they
were sold through the Keswick and was one of the first shows to go on sale,
maybe before the scalpers had their plans in place), so I doubt that show
will see a move.