Midnight Oil

Subject: Re: [powderworks] Read about it (or not) - ROCK STAR POLITICIAN ACCUSES POKIE INDUSTRY (but not any more)
From: Miron Mizrahi
Date: 8/10/2015, 9:09 am
To: "powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au" <powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au>, Jeff McLean <jeff.mclean@exemail.com.au>

Midnight Oil

what do you expect to have? foresight? sorry, but my mind reading machine is at the mechanic for repairs.

they don't have to deny. he's done it for them.

what I would rather happen is for the influence of money in politics to become a topic of conversation. some investigative journalist (assuming any is left) surely can do it. the doco is a step forward but PG's role in this, the way it panned out, is a step backward. everyone knows this is happening. what is needed is proof not rumours that the other side can dismiss as conspiracy theories or slander. Check Bernie Sanders, how he is speaking about it on the campaign trail and the impact it is having (which sadly is not enough)

 
Miron

How could people get so unkind?



From: "Jeff McLean jeff.mclean@exemail.com.au [powderworks]" <powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au>
To: powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2015 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [powderworks] Read about it (or not) - ROCK STAR POLITICIAN ACCUSES POKIE INDUSTRY (but not any more)

 
Oh, to have that hindsight.

So you'd rather it was never mentioned then?  That's odder.  Better that the perpetrators have to dismiss something that they never have to have it answered at all.



On 08/10/15 07:57, Miron Mizrahi mironmizrahi@yahoo.com [powderworks] wrote:
 
then he should not have stated it at all. retracting is what makes it look bad. it may get him out of the hot seat but completely defeats the purpose of trying to "out" this behaviour. it is now easy for deniers and defenders to dismiss.
 
Miron

How could people get so unkind?



From: Jeff McLean <jeff.mclean@exemail.com.au>
To: powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au; oilyshark <oilyshark@optusnet.com>; 'Miron Mizrahi' <mironmizrahi@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2015 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: [powderworks] Read about it (or not) - ROCK STAR POLITICIAN ACCUSES POKIE INDUSTRY (but not any more)

Orright you lot.

I don't know much about this particular incident, but maaaan for Oils fans, some of you are good Haters!

PG would be a first class DILL to keep maintaining this unprovable claim.  We should be glad that he made an honest statement about what happened; for no other reason that we are reminded that the enticement to be bought in Australian politics continues well-and-truly today.

He has sensibly retracted that statement from going into print in a book that he wrote because he knows damned well that it's completely unprovable and he'll almost certainly lose in court.

I, for one, think he's made a silk purse out of an evidential sow's ear.  He's brought it to our attention, now is protecting himself from being penalised when that would be truly unfair.

Maybe I'm in the minority.

Cheers,
Jeff



On 07/10/15 10:45, 'oilyshark' oilyshark@optusnet.com [powderworks] wrote:
 
True…what a back flip.
 
Always hated Pete going into politics cause I knew it would de-cred his years on stage with some if not may…not to mention the legacy of the Oils. Didn’t always agree with his years of political speech on stage but hey at least he was passionate. Must have almost killed him whilst the pink bats disaster unfolded knowing his mother died in a house fire.
 
Been a huge Oils fan for years (as some will know on this site) but as one great friend on the site once asked me “can’t believe you are an Oils fan but against Labor”. I just loved the music not the message. The message I knew and didn’t always agree with but the music was theirs.
 
Listening to Bird Noises in your neighbours room with a pool table eventually takes a toll….once innocently asked “wow I love this band…are they Australian? .Then Place Without A Postcard just came out and Robert Butcher took the shots of Palm Beach
 
At my mats place in 83 and I walk in and he has 2JJJ ON AND Entertainment Centre concert is on….somebody’s trying to tell me something
 
Many stories to tell…..open up the forum…this group is too silent….
 
From: Miron Mizrahi [mailto:mironmizrahi@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2015 9:47 AM
To: powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au; tr_espen@yahoo.com.au; oilyshark
Subject: Re: [powderworks] Read about it (or not) - ROCK STAR POLITICIAN ACCUSES POKIE INDUSTRY (but not any more)
 
also after vs. before election
 
Miron

How could people get so unkind?
 



From: "'oilyshark' oilyshark@optusnet.com [powderworks]" <powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au>
To: powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au; tr_espen@yahoo.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 9:43 AM
Subject: RE: [powderworks] Read about it (or not) - ROCK STAR POLITICIAN ACCUSES POKIE INDUSTRY (but not any more)
 
 
Big difference between a recollection of a lot of cash and then a cheque…sounds like someone has got to him to change his tune but that in itself would be very disappointing
 
From: powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2015 10:57 PM
To: powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [powderworks] Read about it (or not) - ROCK STAR POLITICIAN ACCUSES POKIE INDUSTRY (but not any more)
 
 
A bit of excitement.  Peter Garrett has retracted an earlier claim that he received a wad of cash in an envelope from the poker machine lobby (a lobby that got a serve in "Truganini"):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m3oYeVYdvg
.

PG says he had a memory lapse.  It was a cheque not cash.  And the money came before he was a Minister.

But others including federal Independent MP Andrew Wilkie have since come forward and said that PG's original claim deserves investigation.  And others have heard of similar claims by other politicians.

The ABC's "7.30" report has also covered the story tonight (at 9 mins 30 secs):

http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/7-30/NC1505H177S00#playing
 
(And here's the ABC Online's version of the story):

Peter Garrett, former Labor minister, retracts details of alleged Clubs NSW money offer
By the National Reporting Team's James Thomas
Updated about an hour ago

Wilkie 'deeply shocked' by allegations