Midnight Oil

Subject: RE: [powderworks] Sat. Night at the Capitol "truck mixes"
From: "Jeff and Jane Scott" <jscott@iinet.net.au>
Date: 21/10/2010, 11:22 pm
To: "'Michael Blackwood'" <blackwood_michael@hotmail.com>, "'Oils Powderworks'" <powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au>

The Scream In Blue version of Powderworks has a drum intro at the front, which may or may not have come from the Capitol Theatre performance, which accounts for the extra time.  Other than that they're the same, I think.
 
I've always assumed the "truck mixes" are just the audio for songs that they don't have any film of.  It's not uncommon for things like this that the show is filmed, then edited for TV broadcast or whatever.  Then after the editing is done all the unused raw footage gets lost or thrown away, or not stored properly.  Then twenty years later someone goes looking for it and finds that only the edited film remains.  But they do have the complete audio...  I'd expect the Oils probably kept control of the audio of the show (as they do any show they record), and the company that did the filming kept (or didn't keep) the film that didn't make the final cut.
 
A similar thing happened with Pink Floyd's "Live at Pompeii" from the early 70's - the director went back a few years ago to create a new version for DVD, and found that none of his raw film outside the original edits had been kept, or kept in a useable state.
 
That's my theory anyway.
 
jeff...
 
 


From: powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of Michael Blackwood
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2010 7:41 PM
To: Oils Powderworks
Subject: RE: [powderworks] Sat. Night at the Capitol "truck mixes"

Wierd... the SiB version of Powderworks is MUCH longer than the version broadcast as part of Saturday Night at the Capitol, but they're BOTH edited?  I can't see any logic in that, so I wonder what happened. 
 
Does anybody know what the "truck mixes" are, and if the less-than-three-minute "truck mix" of Run By Night is the way the song was played at the gig, or if a verse has been edited out, or what?
 

Subject: Re: [powderworks] Sat. Night at the Capitol "truck mixes"
From: jimcwarren@earthlink.net
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 20:28:02 -0700
CC: powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au
To: blackwood_michael@hotmail.com


I don't know, but it looks to me on the DVD like Powderworks has a chunk taken out of it, basically the "getting in for one free bite" verse. And the Scream in Blue album is also missing that verse, so I am almost certain that Powderworks on Scream in Blue and Powderworks on the Best of Both Worlds DVD are the same performance.

The thing is, when I listed to Scream in Blue Live 18 years ago, I thought that the band just left that verse out for some reason, but now that I watch the DVD, there definitely seems to be an abrupt cut. I bet that they played that verse when they performed it, but somehow it got cut out of the recording. Another reason for this hypothesis is that when you watch the concert on the DVD, Peter's shirt is on and then suddenly he is running around with it off, and the discontinuity of that really makes it seem like a part got cut out. Does anyone who has seen this agree, because I've wondering about this.

I love seeing that one performed live on the DVD. That DVD does not disappoint even for the most die-hard fan with high expectations.

-Jim W. 


On Oct 20, 2010, at 10:25 AM, Michael Blackwood wrote:

 
Hey, 'Workers!
 
I've got another Oils minutia question that I'm hoping to have answered...
 
What exactly are the "Truck Mixes" that are available on the Saturday Night at the Capitol portion of the Best of Both Worlds DVD?  Were they just un-televised recordings of the live performance at the show, or are they remixed somehow?  For example, the "truck mix" of Run By Night is under 3 minutes long, and omits the second verse of the song when compared to the 1978 album version.  Is that actually how it was played on the night of Nov 27, 1982, or was it edited after the fact?  Does anyone have the bootleg of the full show (not just the broadcast portion) so they can compare?  Likewise, the broadcast version of Powderworks from that gig is significantly shortened from the album version; is that how it was played live that night, or was it edited for TV?  Because I thought the live version of Powderworks found on Scream In Blue came from that gig, but it's definitely the full-length song.
 
If anyone can clear up these mysteries, I'd greatly appreciate it!
 
Thanks,
Mike