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Subject: Re: Re: [powderworks] Your opinion of Pete's approval of the Pulp Mill
From: ashokachowta@optusnet.com.au
Date: 24/10/2007, 9:31 pm
To: powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au

Is it my email account or is it something else, why do I keep getting 2 copies of the same email by a powderworker?

Beth Curran <bcurran@columbus.rr.com> wrote:

Boy, do I agree with this article, especially because I'm not much 
younger than PG.  There's significant validity in working for 
incremental change.  It doesn't mean someone has sold out, only that 
they've decided to try another tactic.  Working within the system always 
means compromise, which isn't necessarily bad if it's the way to get 
long-term results.

And so we have the young PG working aggressively for immediate major 
change in the morning of his life, and  patiently pushing for smaller, 
and, hopefully, inexorable advances in the afternoon.  So often when we 
have all our lives before us, we want immediate results, yet later we 
change to a longer view, knowing full well that we may only see small 
advances during our own lives.  Yikes, I sound old!   (Shut up, Heidi) - 
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: TimC 
  To: ashokachowta@optusnet.com.au ; powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 3:12 AM
  Subject: RE: [powderworks] Your opinion of Pete's approval of the Pulp 

  Since you bring this up, I read an article on Crikey.com.au that I 
wanted to share with the list but was foiled by it's untimely demise ;-)

  Mungo: Garrett abandons utopia for results
  Mungo MacCallum writes:

  You have to feel sorry for Peter Garrett. He's had a pretty rough time 
since he joined the Labor Party more that three years ago, and it all 
came to a head last week.

  When Garrett, on behalf of the ALP, signed off on the government's 
decision to approve the Tamar Valley pulp mill, the Greens turned 
carnivorous. From being a trusted environmental warrior, Garrett had 
become a sell out and a cipher, the shadow minister who didn't cast a 
shadow. As everyone had predicted, the Labor Party had chewed him up and 
spat him out. From being an idealist and a man of principle, Garrett was 
now just another politician.

  Well yes, he was, and this is precisely the point. After spending his 
youth banging his impressive head against various brick walls in pursuit 
of noble causes, Garrett has now grown up. In 2003 he became convinced 
that actually achieving change for the better, imperfect though it might 
be, was more useful than spending the rest of his life yearning for an 
unattainable green utopia. Whether consciously or not he accepted the 
truth of Gough Whitlam's dictum: the impotent are always pure. He may 
even have turned it around: the pure are always impotent.

  From the start he knew politics would involve compromise, that he 
would no longer be the free spirit his fans had idolised at Midnight Oil 
concerts. He would have to balance the interests of the many against the 
dreams of a few. But he made the choice, and to his great credit he has 
stuck with it. 

  Moreover, he has seen how dire the consequences of uncompromising 
idealism can be. In 2004 Labor under Mark Latham went down the deep 
green path in Tasmania. Seduced by the Greens Leader Bob Brown, Latham 
was persuaded that a policy of quarantining large areas of forests from 
loggers would be vote winner both in the state and across the mainland. 
Garrett embraced the move and campaigned vigorously in the short time 
remaining before polling day. 

  The result is now history: not only did Labor lose the seats of Bass 
and Braddon in Tasmania, but the party forfeited any chance of picking 
up mainland forestry seats like Eden-Monaro and Gippsland. The policy 
did not lose the election for Labor, although the contrast between 
Latham sneaking away from timber workers through an underground car park 
while Howard was cheered by them in a mass rally was one of the enduring 
images of the campaign, and one which would have swung many waverers to 
the government in the final week. But there is no doubt that the net 
cost was at least two, probably three seats. Those on the left now 
excoriating Garrett's pragmatism might care to remember this if in 2007 
Howard scrapes back by a similar margin. 

  There is no doubt that the man himself feels uncomfortable with the 
pulp mill decision, or that he is hurt by the attacks from former 
friends and allies. But he has held the line and will continue to do so. 
And he can take more than marginal comfort from the fact that Labor's 
primary vote continues to run at 47 percent, while the Greens are at 
just 7.6. As a result there is every possibility that in two month's 
time Peter Garrett, Minister for the Environment, will be signing the 
ratification documents for the Kyoto treaty and preparing to implement a 
radical and far-reaching program on sustainable energy, pollution 
control and climate change, while Bob Brown, Greens leader in the 
senate, will still be leading futile demonstrations against a pulp mill. 

  The purists will no doubt dismiss the political rise of Peter Garrett 
as his 30 pieces of silver, the wages of treachery. Those of us more 
interested in results than rhetoric will applaud it as a hard-earned 
laurel wreath, a reward for courage and vision, but above all for common 


  From: powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au 
[mailto:powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of 
  Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2007 12:55 PM
  To: powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au
  Subject: [powderworks] Your opinion of Pete's approval of the Pulp 

  I want to know something, what's your opinion on Peter Garrett giving 
the approval for the Pulp Mill to go ahead, even though he says as long 
it meets the environmental standards or something like that?, I know 
he's losing fans, one fellow what's his money back from 11 Oils albums 
be bought, there are people including environmentalists in his 
electorate who are planning on voting him out, the Labor Party are 
thinking of chnaging his portfolio. So what do you reckon, u think he 
has sold out or not etc etc?

  Personally I'm not jumping to any conclusions, I don't think we've 
heard the full story of Peter's reasons. All will be revealed when if 
the Labor Party wins

  Oh and another thing and this makes me smirk now when I think about it 
but I thought one of the reasons that Powderworks was closed might be 
because of my and others occasional swearing. 

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Ashoka Chowta Graphic Designs
Myrtle Bank SA, 5064
Mobile: 0404 217 028 
Tele: 8379 8756