Midnight Oil

[Powderworks] Re: Farewell tour?

Miron Mizrahi mironmizrahi at yahoo.com
Sat Apr 17 19:15:23 MDT 2004


well, if it does happen my house is open for overseas workers


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>    1. In the news today- WHAT?? (Varina Crisfield)
>    2. Farewell tour? (Patrick Collins)
>    3. Re: maleny protest (Glitch)
>    4. Re: lyrics help? (Glitch)
>    5. Re: LMOC - hello again and dvd format (Glitch)
>    6. maleny protest (Ross Locket)
>    7. ATSIC breakup (Jeff and Jane Scott)
>    8. RE: In the news today-  WHAT?? (Beth Curran)
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> ATTACHMENT part 3.1 message/rfc822 
> From: "Varina Crisfield" <ghostie at snail-mail.net>
> Subject: [Powderworks] In the news today- WHAT??
> CC: 
> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:31:32 -0400
> To: powderworks at cs.colorado.edu
> 
> Well this is the wierdest thing I've seen since I last read The
> Onion.
> 
> Isn't Forbes Magazine something to do with finance, or business,
> or 
> other capitalist activities? Why would the Oils hire a bunch of 
> professionals to reunify them? What does Forbes have to do with
> this? 
> Where the hell did you FIND this???
> 
> 
> Care2 make the world greener!
> Support Care2 Email: Stop "scientific" whaling, the whale-killing
> loophole
> http://www.care2.com/go/z/12803
> 
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 3.2 message/rfc822 
> From: "Patrick Collins" <patandmichelle at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Powderworks] Farewell tour?
> CC: 
> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 20:55:36 +0000
> To: powderworks at cs.colorado.edu
> 

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I have just been given the go-ahead from my better half to go to Oz
(from the UK) in the event of a farewell tour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  So.  I
am asking for anybody who may have advance warning of tickets etc.
to please let me know.  ALso if, in the event it does actually come
off, I am asking for a kindly 'workers for a floor to kip on.  I
would be most appreciative but draw the line at sexual favours -
well........while the cat's away......;)

Cheers,

P.



 




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> ATTACHMENT part 3.3 message/rfc822 
> From: Glitch <sena.reisenweaver at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Powderworks] maleny protest
> CC: 
> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 21:13:10 -0400
> To: <powderworks at cs.colorado.edu>
> 
> Nathan - glad to hear it - please keep us updated.
> This makes me sad and happy at the same time.
> 
> -GB
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------
> got your last meal filled up with pesticide
> hamburger chain third world infanticide
> got robot car your job will disappear
> it's called the politics of a brand new year
> some say that's progress i say that's cruel
> 
> --midnight oil
> ----------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> > I'll give a brief update on the Maleny saga...
> > The three remaining trees on the site are still standing. The
> Department of
> > Natural Resourses have determined that many of the trees were
> destroyed
> > illegally because they were within the flood zone. The owners of
> the block,
> > Cornerstone Properties could be fined $120,000 per tree removed
> illegally.
> > There is a town meeting tomorrow at 10am which could determine
> the future of
> > the block. The platypus were swimming and feeding in the river
> 15 minutes
> > ago.
> > 
> > Nathan.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <ribman at manthey.com.au>
> > To: <powderworks at cs.colorado.edu>
> > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:14 AM
> > Subject: [Powderworks] maleny protest
> > 
> > 
> >> since it hasn't appeared in the archive yet ...
> >> last nights news had reports of the demolition at maleny (1.5
> hours
> >> north of here).  mostly that there was a day long standoff
> between
> >> protesters and workers, where work was at a standstill while
> legals
> >> checked whether laws had been broken ... apparently it's
> illegal to clear
> >> trees in a waterway, and that's the point they're debating, not
> whether
> >> they could clearfell the block.
> >> platapii weren't mentioned.
> >> neither were beards.
> >> 
> >>  manthey
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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> ATTACHMENT part 3.4 message/rfc822 
> From: Glitch <sena.reisenweaver at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Powderworks] lyrics help?
> CC: 
> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 21:21:29 -0400
> To: <powderworks at cs.colorado.edu>
> 
> I have very literal tolerance for the use of the word "man" in a
> gender-neutral setting.
> I hadn't thought of Renaissance Man as being gender neutral. 
> "Renaissance
> Man" is a sort of idiomatic phrase to refer to someone on the
> cutting edge,
> a child of the New Way.  So you're right, it is gender neutral. 
> But I have
> ALWAYS appreciated MO's inclusion of the Renaissance Woman at the
> end of the
> song.  Made me feel more included :-)
> -GB
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------
> got your last meal filled up with pesticide
> hamburger chain third world infanticide
> got robot car your job will disappear
> it's called the politics of a brand new year
> some say that's progress i say that's cruel
> 
> --midnight oil
> ----------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> > Well, the word "man" does have a gender-neutral meaning when
> used as an
> > abstract pronoun, though admittedly it's not much used that way
> nowadays
> > - But the gender-neutral usage of "man" also pops up in
> Renaissance Man,
> > even if they did toss in a "woman" there at the end to sorta
> even things
> > out. - Beth 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: powderworks-bounces at cs-lists.cs.colorado.edu
> > [mailto:powderworks-bounces at cs-lists.cs.colorado.edu] On Behalf
> Of
> > Glitch
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 7:10 PM
> > To: powderworks at cs.colorado.edu
> > Subject: Re: [Powderworks] lyrics help?
> > 
> > I guess that's why I never much liked MTM; I resist the idea of
> God as a
> > man, and when I first heard this song as a kid was incapable of
> > understanding irony, sarcasm, satire, or however else you might
> > otherwise
> > interpret this lyric.  Never much liked it since.  Time for
> another
> > listen,
> > this time with "grown up" ears.
> > 
> > Thanks to all who helped on the Phar Lap thing.  I knew Phar Lap
> was a
> > racehorse and always wondered how or why he would be floating in
> a jar;
> > thought maybe phar lap meant something different in this
> context.
> > 
> > -GB
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > got your last meal filled up with pesticide
> > hamburger chain third world infanticide
> > got robot car your job will disappear
> > it's called the politics of a brand new year
> > some say that's progress i say that's cruel
> > 
> > --midnight oil
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> That would be way better, a great lyric and idea. "Everybody
> say God
> > is
> >> a good man" means arrogant presumption on the part of people to
> even
> >> assume that God is a man. And in that light, the lyric "Is he
> his own
> >> man?" (as opposed to being the "man" some people presume "he"
> is) is
> >> brilliant. I hope it's what they meant.
> >> 
> >> -Jim
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Apr 11, 2004, at 8:15 PM, Andy Gillcrist wrote:
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 1.  Reckon it still is "Is he a Soul Man" on the original CD
> >>> 
> >>> To me, this has always sounded like "Is he his own man?"  And
> I
> >>> even thought I saw that written down somewhere, but I'm damned
> >>> if I can remember where now.
> >>> 
> >>> Andy
> >>> 
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> ATTACHMENT part 3.5 message/rfc822 
> From: Glitch <sena.reisenweaver at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Powderworks] LMOC - hello again and dvd format
> CC: 
> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 21:24:22 -0400
> To: <powderworks at cs.colorado.edu>
> 
> Nina - hey - congratulations on the wee one.  Did you name him
> Pete?  Or
> perhaps Rob?  Jim?  Come on, I know it wasn't "Bones."
> Oh, wait, your husband's a Jane's Addiction fanatic right??
> Seriously, bag the folk music.  Your baby is not too young to hear
> the Oils.
> Good luck!!!
> -GB
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------
> got your last meal filled up with pesticide
> hamburger chain third world infanticide
> got robot car your job will disappear
> it's called the politics of a brand new year
> some say that's progress i say that's cruel
> 
> --midnight oil
> ----------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> > hey everyone-
> > 
> > first let me say 'hi'! i've been pretty low on the radar this
> past year. my
> > life has changed tremendously. last june my husband and i
> welcomed our first
> > child into the world. he's now almost 10 months old and just a
> joy. as you
> > other parents out there can understand, he's taken most of my
> time - leaving
> > little time to be active on powderworks. - and less time to
> listen to the
> > oils - most of the music that plays in this house is now folky
> children's
> > music (sometimes i just want to rip my hair out over it! how
> many times can
> > a person listen to 'puff the magic dragon?!'). but anyway...
> > 
> > i received my 'best of both worlds' dvd yesterday only to
> discover that i
> > can't play it here in the states on my dvd player. arg! i
> figured that since
> > they had to re-release the 20,000 watts dvd with the new format,
> that this
> > time they would just release this dvd in both formats from the
> beginning. so
> > i guess i have 2 options, keep this one and play it on my
> computer or return
> > it in hopes that they re-release a version i can watch on my dvd
> player.
> > does anyone know if they plan on releasing a version in the US
> format or
> > should i just keep this one?
> > 
> > long live the oils!
> > 
> > nina
> > 
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> 

> ATTACHMENT part 3.6 message/rfc822 
> From: "Ross Locket" <rosslocket at optusnet.com.au>
> Subject: [Powderworks] maleny protest
> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 11:41:58 +1000
> To: "powderworks list" <powderworks at cs-lists.cs.colorado.edu>
> 
> Hi Nathan
> 
> Has anyone approached a current affair to come back and do another
> follow up
> story?  I think that they would be particularly interested now
> that it has
> been determined that the tress have been felled illegally.
> 
> regards
> 
> Ross
> 
> 
> 
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 3.7 message/rfc822 
> From: "Jeff and Jane Scott" <jscott at iinet.net.au>
> Subject: [Powderworks] ATSIC breakup
> CC: 
> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 09:51:22 +0800
> To: "Powderworks" <powderworks at cs.colorado.edu>
> 
> g'day all
> 
> the Aboriginal and Toress Strait Islander Commission is being
> disbanded
> in Australia.  I don't want to get into the politics of that, but
> if you
> happen to see ATSIC Commissioner Alison Anderson on the news and
> think
> you've heard that voice before, it was at Papunya in 1986 sitting
> around
> a campfire talking to this Sydney rock band that were in town...
> 
> 
> jeff...
> 
> 
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 3.8 message/rfc822 
> From: "Beth Curran" <bcurran at columbus.rr.com>
> Subject: RE: [Powderworks] In the news today-  WHAT??
> CC: 
> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 22:51:57 -0400
> To: <kate at dnki.net>, "'Aliester Crowley'"
> <aliestercrowleyy at hotmail.com>,
> 	<powderworks at cs.colorado.edu>
> 
> What medication?  *twitch* *blink*  I quit that stuff, it made me
> lose
> too much weight. - Beth, who has no intention of trading sexual
> favors
> with Pat's cat while he's away
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: powderworks-bounces at cs-lists.cs.colorado.edu
> [mailto:powderworks-bounces at cs-lists.cs.colorado.edu] On Behalf Of
> Kate
> Parker Adams
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:46 AM
> To: Aliester Crowley; powderworks at cs.colorado.edu
> Subject: RE: [Powderworks] In the news today- WHAT??
> 
> I think Beth forgot to take her medication again.
> 
> Otherwise, I'd be preparing to wrestle the two or three other
> powderworkers
> who can run a GCMS for the tour contract!
> 
> kPa
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: powderworks-bounces at cs-lists.cs.colorado.edu
> [mailto:powderworks-bounces at cs-lists.cs.colorado.edu]On Behalf Of
> Aliester Crowley
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 4:55 AM
> To: powderworks at cs.colorado.edu
> Subject: RE: [Powderworks] In the news today- WHAT??
> 
> 
> Hi mates
> 
> ...please, can anybody explain us, in simple words, what´s this
> all
> about??
> 
> THANKS!!
> 
> 
> 
> > >From Forbes magazine
> >
> >Five Aussie Uberrockers' CI Initiative:  The Oilz Live Project
> >
> >By Jody Warner
> >
> >Forbes recently noticed a significant number of Conway Continuous
> >Improvement professionals buying tickets for a
> south-of-the-equator
> >destination and sent the author to track down the story.  All
> this
> >reporter can say is:  That whirring sound you hear is Professor
> Deming
> >rotating in his grave.
> >
> >It seems that Martin Rotsey, guitarist for legendary Australian
> >complaint-rockers Midnight Oil, has arranged for a crack CI team
> to
> >assist with the band's reunification tour under top-secret
> security.
> >The Oils' enduring icon, bald lead singer-cum-environmentalist
> lawyer
> >Peter Garrett, left the band in late 2002 without word of his
> future
> >plans, but seemingly has had second thoughts, according to his
> comments
> >in recent interviews.  During the hiatus, Rotsey was introduced
> to the
> >principles of CI by a family member, and when the band members
> met to
> >negotiate the possibility of reforming to play more live shows,
> he had
> a
> >CI proposal all ready to go.
> >
> >Rotsey explains, "The Oils have always been known for their
> high-energy
> >live shows.  I wanted to make sure we were going to do this
> right, if
> we
> >were going to do it at all."  Drummer and songwriter Rob Hirst is
> >enthusiastic about the new ideas their CI program has brought to
> the
> >table.  "This will be the first time in the band's history that
> we'll
> be
> >able to collect solid data on whether the audience is getting the
> best
> >possible Oils live experience, and we can use each show to make
> >adjustments to the playlist and stage setup for the subsequent
> shows."
> >
> >Consequently, their touring retinue will include not only
> managers,
> >roadies, and instrument techs, but two electrical and three
> acoustic
> >engineers, a half-million dollar miniaturized gas
> chromatograph-mass
> >spectrometer (GC-MS) with a Ph.D. chemist in tow to run it,
> several
> >medical doctors, and a staggering array of specialized equipment
> and
> >computers.  The GC-MS is to be used to sample the air in the
> theater
> and
> >separate and quantify the amount of butyric acid, a component of
> human
> >sweat.  "If the audience isn't dripping, we're not doing our job
> right,"
> >says Rotsey.  "Our fans want to leave a trail on the floor behind
> them
> >on the way out the door, and we're not about to disappoint them. 
> We
> can
> >measure how well each song is doing by looking at the GC-MS data,
> and
> if
> >there's not enough BA in the air, we can change the playlist on
> the fly
> >to hit 'em harder.
> >
> >"At the same time, we need to recognize that some of our fans
> aren't as
> >young as they used to be."  Hence, the doctors.  Garrett
> explains,
> >"Thermal imaging and acousto-optic technology will let our
> doctors and
> >engineers kind of keep an eye on the audience by measuring heart
> rates
> >and skin temperatures, and they can send signals to the on-stage
> >computers when it's time to play Bedlam Bridge or Harrisburg for
> a bit
> >of a break."  Meanwhile, the electrical engineers will be using
> digital
> >imaging to scan the crowd and calculate the percentage of women
> in the
> >audience.  This data will be used to determine how much time the
> >handsome and engaging Hirst will spend at stage front, and how
> often
> >he'll be turning his back to the audience.  Acoustic measurements
> will
> >allow the band to record the volume and pitch of the audience's
> >response.
> >
> >The electrical engineers seem right at home in this unusual
> environment,
> >especially since guitarist-songwriter Jim Moginie is a dedicated
> techie
> >and spends a great deal of his spare time helping them tinker
> with
> their
> >setup.  The chemist, however, has an unenviable job dealing with
> bassist
> >and inveterate prankster "Bones" Hillman, who seemingly regards
> him as
> >lawful prey.  Hillman has reprogrammed the GC-MS computer on the
> sly,
> >persisted in blowing marijuana smoke into the air sampling
> device, and
> >relentlessly pestered the hapless scientist with endless charts
> such as
> >"PPOCF (Pete Perspiration Output Correction Factor)" or
> "Increased
> >Signal-to-Noise Ratio Induced by Cheap Aftershave:  The
> Aqua-Velva
> >Effect."  "Hey, he's going to have show the system can deal with
> it,"
> >Hillman pointed out.
> >
> >The result, Rotsey hopes, will be the best Midnight Oil shows in
> the
> >band's 25 year history.  It remains to be seen whether the
> principles
> of
> >Continuous Improvement are truly applicable to one of rock's most
> >hard-hitting stage shows.  The author is looking forward to
> observing
> >the outcome and reporting back to Forbes readers in a future
> article.
> >
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