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Kate Parker Adams
kate@dnki.net
Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:57:06 -0400
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At 06:14 PM 10/13/03 -0400, Virgil Thomas Alexander Morant wrote:
>Again, my own favorite remark about my own hometown: "This [Cleveland] is
>a town only a mother could love, what coastal Americans dismiss as
>'fly-over country'" (122). That's just a blanket statement about
>Cleveland, the subject of his statement. It's not a subjective
>observation from an admittedly brief observer of the town who only saw a
>small fraction of it for a couple of days. He just says it flatly. It
>was, as was a lot of the rest of the book, a great, big, bad conclusion,
>stated objectively, about something he knows very little about.
I have been to Cleveland several times and I have to say that I was not
impressed with it, either as a business traveller, passing through or on
private visit, or when I was there to interview and had someone actively
selling me on living there. I'd certainly pick it over Detroit, were those
the only choices, and it's rock-and-roll history would lead it to edge out
Pittsburgh too (where I have been multiple times). Then again, I first
visited NYC in 1985 and was dumbstruck horrified and beyond overwhelmed by
the place - a perception that changed drastically by the mid-1990's. I
haven't been to Cleveland that recently.
That said, picking on Cleveland is at best a trite joke. While the comment
is well-stated, Rob is politely pandering to the collective sense that
Cleveland is an iconically awful city - not only sprawling, uncultured and
polluted but boring as f**k too ... all for an audience who have likely
never been and likely never will be there. I agree with Virgil that it
isn't good writing.
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At 06:14 PM 10/13/03 -0400, Virgil Thomas Alexander Morant wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="Times New Roman, Times">Again,
my own favorite remark about my own hometown: "This [Cleveland] is a
town only a mother could love, what coastal Americans dismiss as
'fly-over country'" (122). That's just a blanket statement
about Cleveland, the subject of his statement. It's not a
subjective observation from an admittedly brief observer of the town who
only saw a small fraction of it for a couple of days. He just says
it flatly. It was, as was a lot of the rest of the book, a great,
big, bad conclusion, stated objectively, about something he knows very
little about.</font> </blockquote><br>
I have been to Cleveland several times and I have to say that I was not
impressed with it, either as a business traveller, passing through or on
private visit, or when I was there to interview and had someone actively
selling me on living there. I'd certainly pick it over Detroit,
were those the only choices, and it's rock-and-roll history would lead it
to edge out Pittsburgh too (where I have been multiple times). Then
again, I first visited NYC in 1985 and was dumbstruck horrified and
beyond overwhelmed by the place - a perception that changed drastically
by the mid-1990's. I haven't been to Cleveland that
recently.<br><br>
That said, picking on Cleveland is at best a trite joke. While the
comment is well-stated, Rob is politely pandering to the collective sense
that Cleveland is an iconically awful city - not only sprawling,
uncultured and polluted but boring as f**k too ... all for an audience
who have likely never been and likely never will be there. I agree
with Virgil that it isn't good writing.<br><br>
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