[andrew pye]

> >"We're interested in . . . the moral black hole that we descended into
with the
> Tampa and how
> >do we get the grappling irons and climb out of that," Garrett says.
>
> To what does this refer?


Oppression and reconciliation I would have thought - specific reference to
the current refugee situation in this example. Human rights. You know, the
usual stuff.


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