Midnight Oil

FW: [Powderworks] Thanks Pete

rick rickysan@speedlink.com.au
Wed, 4 Dec 2002 13:41:13 +1100


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               Maybe the Oils just didn't get that wanky "rock star" =
thing down pat enough.

           I still remember a music awards show where they were =
announcing the nominees and showing a shot of the band in the audience =
while their names were being read out,like they do.And when they got to =
U2, Bono was lighting up a cigar!He couldn't wait 3 minutes until that =
award was over, nope he had to light up during the nominations.And of =
course U2 won so he just walked on stage cigar in hand.

        Whilst in wanky "rockstar" actions this isn't exactly throwing a =
t.v set out a hotel window,i think it's a rock star image thing that =
maybe you need for superstardom and the oils didn't have it.Just humble =
regular blokes.

            They *shock,horror* let the music speak for themselves.


                    Rick

P.S i know the dangers of slagging off U2,so please go easy on me.



  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Bawolski@aol.com=20
  To: mrnoisy@iprimus.com.au ; powderworks@cs.colorado.edu=20
  Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:08 PM
  Subject: Re: FW: [Powderworks] Thanks Pete


  In a message dated 12/3/2002 2:24:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, =
mrnoisy@iprimus.com.au writes:


    I'm just wondering why U2 have just gotten bigger, whereas the Oils
    popularity waned so much during the 90's that a lot of people are =
surprised
    when they hear that they are still around.
    Is it because they are Aussie? Did ESM/Breathe turn mainstream =
audiences
    off?
    I think all of their albums post D&D could have been top 10 in the =
states
    had things been a little different.



  When Blue Sky Mining was released it seemed like the Oils were on the =
verge=20
  of U2 type stardom.  I felt that CD was going to be their Joshua Tree. =
 I=20
  remember that it was the feature review in Rolling Stone (U.S.) =
magazine
  and got an excellent write up (whereas Capricornia didn't get reviewed
  at all).  The tour that year was pretty big from what I remember =
(three=20
  nights here in L.A. at pretty sizeable venues) but obviously in the =
end
  U2 like stardom wasn't to be.  It's funny that you mention the =
possibility
  that some of their other '90's albums may have turned off mainstream=20
  audiences when you look at the limited work that U2 did during that=20
  same period after Achtung Baby -  Zooropa and Pop were pretty =
challenging
  albums that I wouldn't consider among their best, yet they retained =
their=20
  audience and are now bigger than ever. =20

  Mike.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S i know the dangers of slagging off =
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  <A title=3DBawolski@aol.com =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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2002 12:08=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: FW: [Powderworks] =
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  Pete</DIV>
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  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In a message dated 12/3/2002 2:24:36 AM Pacific =
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  Time, <A =
href=3D"mailto:mrnoisy@iprimus.com.au">mrnoisy@iprimus.com.au</A>=20
  writes:<BR><BR>
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  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px =
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20
  TYPE=3D"CITE">I'm just wondering why U2 have just gotten bigger, =
whereas the=20
    Oils<BR>popularity waned so much during the 90's that a lot of =
people are=20
    surprised<BR>when they hear that they are still around.<BR>Is it =
because=20
    they are Aussie? Did ESM/Breathe turn mainstream =
audiences<BR>off?<BR>I=20
    think all of their albums post D&amp;D could have been top 10 in the =

    states<BR>had things been a little =
different.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>When=20
  Blue Sky Mining was released it seemed like the Oils were on the verge =
<BR>of=20
  U2 type stardom.&nbsp; I felt that CD was going to be their Joshua =
Tree.&nbsp;=20
  I <BR>remember that it was the feature review in Rolling Stone (U.S.)=20
  magazine<BR>and got an excellent write up (whereas Capricornia didn't =
get=20
  reviewed<BR>at all).&nbsp; The tour that year was pretty big from what =
I=20
  remember (three <BR>nights here in L.A. at pretty sizeable venues) but =

  obviously in the end<BR>U2 like stardom wasn't to be.&nbsp; It's funny =
that=20
  you mention the possibility<BR>that some of their other '90's albums =
may have=20
  turned off mainstream <BR>audiences when you look at the limited work =
that U2=20
  did during that <BR>same period after Achtung Baby -&nbsp; Zooropa and =
Pop=20
  were pretty challenging<BR>albums that I wouldn't consider among their =
best,=20
  yet they retained their <BR>audience and are now bigger than =
ever.&nbsp;=20
  <BR><BR>Mike.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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