[Jonathan Hart]

It is my opinion that the US gov't (government) is the economic
equivalent of the nazis.  Whoah, whoah, before you rip me a new hole,
consider it.

The Nazis tried to take over the world by overrunning and occupying
countries, then bending them to their will.  The US does exactly the
same thing in an economic fashion.  If a country isn't friendly or can't
be bought, then the CIA secretly funds the rebels to take over the
gov't.  Or, in the case of Irag, Afghanistan, etc, they bust in and kick
some ass.  At the same time, they drudge up support for their war
efforts at home by issuing propaganda that villainizes the "enemy" while
pleading the case of the rebels or the poor helpless citizens of the
country in question.  The reasons given by the US for the "war" in
Afghanistan were 1) oust the Taliban gov't because they wouldn't hand
over Bin Laden and 2) free the Afghani people from the evil tyranical
Taliban.  It doesn't seem to matter to them that Afghanistan is in a
right mess now, after the fact.  The US gov't doesn't care, as long as
they can build their pipeline through Afghanistan and pump their
precious oil.

In short, the US is taking over the world just as systematically and
just as selfishly as the nazis wanted to do.  They just aren't quite so
obvious and violent.  But, in the end, people are still dying and
starving and rotting because of US gov't policies.  But they don't care
because they aren't Americans dying.

-----Original Message-----
From: powderworks-admin@cs.colorado.edu
[mailto:powderworks-admin@cs.colorado.edu] On Behalf Of Geordie McMillan
Sent: August 8, 2002 9:06 PM
To: powderworks@cs.colorado.edu
Subject: [Powderworks] Hiroshima/Dubya's "war on terra"


I reckon that it's always good to have these sort of debates/discussions
as 
part of the forum. However, I believe that George "Dubya" Bush's current

"war on terra" has got sweet f-a in common with any conflict up to and 
including World War II.

I realise that this is an often recurring theme on this mailing list, 
however, I believe that the US of A has got a lot to answer for when it 
comes to this current round of the US military using up its excess
arsenal 
on whatever bogeyman's turn it is, i.e. Bin Laden, Iraq, Phillipines,
etc.

For a group such as Al Qaeda, the Sandinistas in Nicaragua, or any other

militant organisation for that matter, to form, they are more often than
not 
provoked into being. Since 1949, the United States has been involved in 
nearly every conflict involving both government sanctioned and boycotted

militant activities in the 'Second' and 'Third' World.

>From the Congo, Vietnam, Columbia, Chile, Nicaragua, Panama, Haiti,
Cuba, 
South Africa, Uganda, Burma, Afghanistan, Iran, Somalia, etc., the might
of 
the US military-industrial complex has found a reason to sustain its
profits 
at the expense of millions of innocent civilians and unwilling soldiers.

The current haphazard looting of Afghanistan by British, American and
other 
'Allied' forces is just another example of western 'democracies' failing
to 
understand and recognise the reactions that their self-imposed
'freedoms' 
produce in the inhabitants of many of these countries. For groups such
as Al 
Qaeda to prosper and seemingly succeed against the might of the US
military 
should not surprise anyone who has bothered to read a history book.

Also, the United States should realise that both on the domestic and 
international fronts, they are waging an illegal war. For a war to
occur, it 
strictly must be between two nations. What the US is currently pervading
is 
a Gestapo style global police force that no-one in the western
hemisphere 
has the guts to stand up to.

Domestically, many of the laws on 'homeland security' introduced since
the 
Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 are actually in contravention of up to 13 
Amendments in the US Bill of Rights. Scary stuff.

Things to think of, I guess, when dramatic anniversaries such as the
bombing 
of Hiroshima and Nagasaki occur...

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