Re: [powderworks] Re: NMOC (definitely, now)

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Tom <tr_espen@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

And this week he's helped protect the separation of church and state while also supporting chaplains in helping school kids, IMHO.

OK, you mentioned it, so I'll bite - just how DO chaplains "help" school kids? As opposed to the (far more productive, so far as I can see) roles played by counsellors, or just plain old teachers? And wouldn't the money that's being spent on that program be better put towards, oh, I don't know, not cutting the HECS discount by 10%?

(Yes, I'm an atheist, but this isn't an atheist debate...I just don't see that having a chaplain at a school achieves anything that having a chaplain in a church doesn't)

But, for me anyway, the big thing is that he's still in cabinet, exerting whatever a pretty smart political activist can do in that very tricky position. We just don't know what he's done there, but we all know it's a tough gig, and I can't think of anyone else who would be better there ...

Lost in a cold forgotten war
A war for some forgotten cause
Because of some forgotten words
About something I'd never heard ...

I'd forgotten how good the chorus to No Man's Land is....doesn't tend to get a lot of listens unfortunately.

- Chris�